javilu wrote:Mister Moon wrote:javilu wrote:Mister Moon wrote:As a football lover, I can't be "Anti Argentina" either. You know, I like Messi's playing - I know it well, I'm from Barcelona. But I just don't like those big names that seem to overshadow everything else. And Messi is an example of that. Also, I don't think anybody owed Messi anything. There have been many great football players who never won the World Cup. And
you have Maradona, who, as I mentioned earlier, hardly won anything else, aside from that World Cup in 1986. So that's how it goes.
Anyway, congratulations, even though, this time, I was rooting for somebody else...
Say what?
https://www.goal.com/en/news/how-many-trophies-has-diego-maradona-won-in-his-career/blt58bd324786839905
Yes, but the only other important trophies were the Italian league with Napoli and the UEFA Cup. Pretty poor for a monster of that caliber. No European Cup (now Champions League), or Spanish League, or America Cup. Messi has had all those several times over, for example.
Maradona took an extremely small and limited team like Napoli and took it to heights they never ever dreamed of. It's not like he played in a powerful Barcelona surrounded by stars. In Napoli Maradona is considered a God.
Agreed, but he just won two Italian leagues and one UEFA Cup with Napoli. And before that he had played in FC Barcelona for a couple of years, surrounded by great players like Bernd Schuster, and did not even win the local league, let alone major European cups.
Anyway, my point is, despite all of that, we all consider Diego as one of the greatest ever. So it's not really that important how many cups a player has won, like somebody wants us to believe now regarding Messi. So he had not won the World Cup yet ? No problem.
In the end, this is all marketing. It has nothing to do with football at all.
Meanwhile, Amir Nasr-Azadani, the Iranian football player, has been sentenced to death because of his fight for freedom, and NOBODY has had the balls (or rather the dignity) of saying anything, or showing a t-shirt with his image during the ridiculously long closing ceremony we saw yesterday.
That's where we are, really. Bottom of the barrel.
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