The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

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The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sat May 25, 2024 10:56 pm

so, I just listened to all 4 discs. overall a winner. A must have.
Not too much editing I could spot right off.
Take 18 FS is not here from the "slicin' sand" session.
This could have been a 3 disc set but Ernst insists on including the master twice. When one is not even needed.

A few things I wanted to point out and that is a list of songs pictured in the booklet.

Songs like, "Playing with Fire", "Hawaiian Sunrise", and others have been on rumored to have been recorded by
elvis for years. One wonders at what point was this list made. Was it a proposed list of to be recorded, or what was recorded?

Also, a picture of a tape file on the back on the disc foldout holder could be fake because it shows take numbers
that were not included here at all.

Hawaiian Sunset take 11, when we only get takes 1- 7.
Hawaiian Wedding song take 14, when we only get takes 1 & 2.
Moonlight swim take 7, when we only get takes 1-4.
Beach boy blues take 12, when we only get takes 1-3.
Rocka hula baby take 6, when we only get takes 1-5.

These take numbers seem way off on many of these songs. Is there missing reels of tape?

Anyway, I'm really liking the 8 inch format. As long as Ernst keeps his fingers off the edit button,
we should be ok.

But, again, it's also about what goes where and which sessions go with each other.

Not fond of Soundtracks getting mixed such as including "Wild in the country" with the "Something for everybody" sessions, when

they are not even from the same year, and "Wild in the country" and "Flaming star" both from 1960, and both soundtracks,
would have made a fantastic coupling.

Any other observations are welcome.
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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby foreverelvis » Sat May 25, 2024 11:46 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:so, I just listened to all 4 discs. overall a winner. A must have.
Not too much editing I could spot right off.
Take 18 FS is not here from the "slicin' sand" session.
This could have been a 3 disc set but Ernst insists on including the master twice. When one is not even needed.

A few things I wanted to point out and that is a list of songs pictured in the booklet.

Songs like, "Playing with Fire", "Hawaiian Sunrise", and others have been on rumored to have been recorded by
elvis for years. One wonders at what point was this list made. Was it a proposed list of to be recorded, or what was recorded?

Also, a picture of a tape file on the back on the disc foldout holder could be fake because it shows take numbers
that were not included here at all.

Hawaiian Sunset take 11, when we only get takes 1- 7.
Hawaiian Wedding song take 14, when we only get takes 1 & 2.
Moonlight swim take 7, when we only get takes 1-4.
Beach boy blues take 12, when we only get takes 1-3.
Rocka hula baby take 6, when we only get takes 1-5.

These take numbers seem way off on many of these songs. Is there missing reels of tape?

Anyway, I'm really liking the 8 inch format. As long as Ernst keeps his fingers off the edit button,
we should be ok.

But, again, it's also about what goes where and which sessions go with each other.

Not fond of Soundtracks getting mixed such as including "Wild in the country" with the "Something for everybody" sessions, when

they are not even from the same year, and "Wild in the country" and "Flaming star" both from 1960, and both soundtracks,
would have made a fantastic coupling.

Any other observations are welcome.


Hawaiian Sunset take 11 and others you listed. Those are the track numbers from the album. Blue Hawaii track 1 opens the LP and Hawaiian Wedding Song track 14 closes the LP. Stepping Out of Line track-? is because it was not to be on the LP.

The only thing missing is the 12 second FS take 18 of Slicin Sand.



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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sat May 25, 2024 11:59 pm

foreverelvis wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:so, I just listened to all 4 discs. overall a winner. A must have.
Not too much editing I could spot right off.
Take 18 FS is not here from the "slicin' sand" session.
This could have been a 3 disc set but Ernst insists on including the master twice. When one is not even needed.

A few things I wanted to point out and that is a list of songs pictured in the booklet.

Songs like, "Playing with Fire", "Hawaiian Sunrise", and others have been on rumored to have been recorded by
elvis for years. One wonders at what point was this list made. Was it a proposed list of to be recorded, or what was recorded?

Also, a picture of a tape file on the back on the disc foldout holder could be fake because it shows take numbers
that were not included here at all.

Hawaiian Sunset take 11, when we only get takes 1- 7.
Hawaiian Wedding song take 14, when we only get takes 1 & 2.
Moonlight swim take 7, when we only get takes 1-4.
Beach boy blues take 12, when we only get takes 1-3.
Rocka hula baby take 6, when we only get takes 1-5.

These take numbers seem way off on many of these songs. Is there missing reels of tape?

Anyway, I'm really liking the 8 inch format. As long as Ernst keeps his fingers off the edit button,
we should be ok.

But, again, it's also about what goes where and which sessions go with each other.

Not fond of Soundtracks getting mixed such as including "Wild in the country" with the "Something for everybody" sessions, when

they are not even from the same year, and "Wild in the country" and "Flaming star" both from 1960, and both soundtracks,
would have made a fantastic coupling.

Any other observations are welcome.


Hawaiian Sunset take 11 and others you listed. Those are the track numbers from the album. Blue Hawaii track 1 opens the LP and Hawaiian Wedding Song track 14 closes the LP. Stepping Out of Line track-? is because it was not to be on the LP.

The only thing missing is the 12 second FS take 18 of Slicin Sand.


Yes, track numbers.....that makes sense. thank you....I was just thrown off because it does say "take" at the top of the column.



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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby Mike C » Sun May 26, 2024 5:16 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:
foreverelvis wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:so, I just listened to all 4 discs. overall a winner. A must have.
Not too much editing I could spot right off.
Take 18 FS is not here from the "slicin' sand" session.
This could have been a 3 disc set but Ernst insists on including the master twice. When one is not even needed.

A few things I wanted to point out and that is a list of songs pictured in the booklet.

Songs like, "Playing with Fire", "Hawaiian Sunrise", and others have been on rumored to have been recorded by
elvis for years. One wonders at what point was this list made. Was it a proposed list of to be recorded, or what was recorded?

Also, a picture of a tape file on the back on the disc foldout holder could be fake because it shows take numbers
that were not included here at all.

Hawaiian Sunset take 11, when we only get takes 1- 7.
Hawaiian Wedding song take 14, when we only get takes 1 & 2.
Moonlight swim take 7, when we only get takes 1-4.
Beach boy blues take 12, when we only get takes 1-3.
Rocka hula baby take 6, when we only get takes 1-5.

These take numbers seem way off on many of these songs. Is there missing reels of tape?

Anyway, I'm really liking the 8 inch format. As long as Ernst keeps his fingers off the edit button,
we should be ok.

But, again, it's also about what goes where and which sessions go with each other.

Not fond of Soundtracks getting mixed such as including "Wild in the country" with the "Something for everybody" sessions, when

they are not even from the same year, and "Wild in the country" and "Flaming star" both from 1960, and both soundtracks,
would have made a fantastic coupling.

Any other observations are welcome.


Hawaiian Sunset take 11 and others you listed. Those are the track numbers from the album. Blue Hawaii track 1 opens the LP and Hawaiian Wedding Song track 14 closes the LP. Stepping Out of Line track-? is because it was not to be on the LP.

The only thing missing is the 12 second FS take 18 of Slicin Sand.


Yes, track numbers.....that makes sense. thank you....I was just thrown off because it does say "take" at the top of the column.


That's Joan Deary's handwriting on that tape box so I suspect that's a tape copy of the original master tape.


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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby Tulsa Mclean » Mon May 27, 2024 12:21 pm

A pitty, the first 12 takes of "Can´t Help Falling In Love" are not taken from the original tapes.... :cry:.
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Postby Nolan Truth » Mon May 27, 2024 12:24 pm

Tulsa Mclean wrote:A pitty, the first 12 takes of "Can´t Help Falling In Love" are not taken from the original tapes.... :cry:.

They don’t have them.
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Postby Tulsa Mclean » Mon May 27, 2024 8:20 pm

Nolan Truth wrote:
Tulsa Mclean wrote:A pitty, the first 12 takes of "Can´t Help Falling In Love" are not taken from the original tapes.... :cry:.

They don’t have them.


Yes, I know but there´s no official answer why they didn´t confirmed this on the FTD publicity ad of this release..... :roll:.

FTD is pleased to announce the release of ELVIS PRESLEY - THE BLUE HAWAII SESSIONS. Released as a 4-CD SET, it features the complete soundtrack sessions newly-mixed from the original 3-track session tapes.


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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby PiersEIN » Tue May 28, 2024 5:12 am

Very detailed EIN review here
>>
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftd_review ... sions.html

They were very naughty not noting that 'CHFIL' first 12 takes were off the old Bootleg vinyl - and in fact they sound SO SO similar to the previous release by MRS that I suspect that's where FTD grabbed them from.. :lol:

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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby John » Tue May 28, 2024 8:03 am

PiersEIN wrote:Very detailed EIN review here
>>
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftd_review ... sions.html

They were very naughty not noting that 'CHFIL' first 12 takes were off the old Bootleg vinyl - and in fact they sound SO SO similar to the previous release by MRS that I suspect that's where FTD grabbed them from.. :lol:

Cheers
Piers

FTD copying MRS....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby Nolan Truth » Tue May 28, 2024 9:18 am

John wrote:
PiersEIN wrote:Very detailed EIN review here
>>
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftd_review ... sions.html

They were very naughty not noting that 'CHFIL' first 12 takes were off the old Bootleg vinyl - and in fact they sound SO SO similar to the previous release by MRS that I suspect that's where FTD grabbed them from.. :lol:

Cheers
Piers

FTD copying MRS....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


FTD didn’t copy MRS.
MRS doesn’t have the edits that FTD has.
The FTD is a match for this one from Venus

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Postby John » Tue May 28, 2024 1:40 pm

Nolan Truth wrote:
John wrote:
PiersEIN wrote:Very detailed EIN review here
>>
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftd_review ... sions.html

They were very naughty not noting that 'CHFIL' first 12 takes were off the old Bootleg vinyl - and in fact they sound SO SO similar to the previous release by MRS that I suspect that's where FTD grabbed them from.. :lol:

Cheers
Piers

FTD copying MRS....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


FTD didn’t copy MRS.
MRS doesn’t have the edits that FTD has.
The FTD is a match for this one from Venus

IMG_3117.jpeg

FTD copying a bootleg....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby Nolan Truth » Tue May 28, 2024 4:00 pm

John wrote:
Nolan Truth wrote:
John wrote:
PiersEIN wrote:Very detailed EIN review here
>>
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftd_review ... sions.html

They were very naughty not noting that 'CHFIL' first 12 takes were off the old Bootleg vinyl - and in fact they sound SO SO similar to the previous release by MRS that I suspect that's where FTD grabbed them from.. :lol:

Cheers
Piers

FTD copying MRS....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


FTD didn’t copy MRS.
MRS doesn’t have the edits that FTD has.
The FTD is a match for this one from Venus

IMG_3117.jpeg

FTD copying a bootleg....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


That is an excellent question when you consider they are his friends. ;)
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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby John » Tue May 28, 2024 4:25 pm

Nolan Truth wrote:
John wrote:
Nolan Truth wrote:
John wrote:
PiersEIN wrote:Very detailed EIN review here
>>
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftd_review ... sions.html

They were very naughty not noting that 'CHFIL' first 12 takes were off the old Bootleg vinyl - and in fact they sound SO SO similar to the previous release by MRS that I suspect that's where FTD grabbed them from.. :lol:

Cheers
Piers

FTD copying MRS....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


FTD didn’t copy MRS.
MRS doesn’t have the edits that FTD has.
The FTD is a match for this one from Venus

IMG_3117.jpeg

FTD copying a bootleg....whatever next?

What does Johnny think about that?


That is an excellent question when you consider they are his friends. ;)

So he thinks.



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Re: The Blue Hawaii Sessions 4 disc set FTD overview

Postby thetimetraveller » Wed May 29, 2024 4:20 am

Oh yes, all hail Johnny!

Biggest pain in the Elvis world.

But to get back to the topic, I well remember buying the 4 bootleg LPs of these sessions 20 or 30 years ago. Still have them, actually. But they cost a fortune back then. And I don't remember a lot of interesting outtakes on there.


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