New FTDs....start saving. Girl Happy Sessions, The Making Of King Creole, The Last Tours vol 2

[Yin Yang]

I hate record companies that make limited editions.
Or bleed fans dry by releasing the same song in different formats with a different "B-side".
Sometimes if you wanted to be complete you had to buy the single, maxi-single, CD-single, maxi-CD-single, cassette-single and maxi-cassette single.
With each having a different song on the B-side you'd get 7 songs for a lot of money.
Thank God for home taping! (although the same company sells blank cassette tapes )

[alberta sheffield]

I though about buying this King Creole set (would be my first FTD book).
On the other hand I know that it won't be used often by me.
And for that to pay the prize? No, i am not a collector.
So i will buy only the "Girl Happy sessions".

[alberta sheffield]

Hmm, I guess FTD wants the number of sets pressed kept private. .

Than they should edit their promo video - since you can clearly see the number of the sets which are produced in it.

[minkahed]

I’m curious about the “alternative mix” of Crawfish.

[kevanbudd]

I’m curious about the “alternative mix” of Crawfish.

There are two versions of Crawfish that include the movie overdub by Kitty White that I know of, in addition to the movie itself -

The first copy attached to the opening scene (Turtles etc -the orchestra bleeds into it as it starts) which is not too different from the movie version but with Kitty overdubs a bit more audible (well balanced) and then there is a second standalone copy where Kitty is MUCH more forward - appears to be a test for kittys chorus overdub as Kittys overdub totally dominates.

So from the opening sequence acetate (turtles, berries etc) the original Crawfish may have been removed and replaced with the more extreme mix?

We shall see.

Kevan Budd.

[Nolan Truth]

I’m curious about the “alternative mix” of Crawfish.

There are two versions of Crawfish that include the movie overdub by Kitty White that I know of, in addition to the movie itself -

The first copy attached to the opening scene (Turtles etc -the orchestra bleeds into it as it starts) which is not too different from the movie version but with Kitty overdubs a bit more audible (well balanced) and then there is a second standalone copy where Kitty is MUCH more forward - appears to be a test for kittys chorus overdub as Kittys overdub totally dominates.

So from the opening sequence acetate (turtles, berries etc) the original Crawfish may have been removed and replaced with the more extreme mix?

We shall see.

Kevan Budd.

To add to the above.
On the various foreign soundtrack options on the BluRay of King Creole, if you switch between them, while she’s dueting with Elvis, you’ll hear she’s high in the mix on some and low in others.
Also note the point where she bleeds into the Crawfish track at the beginning.
On the restored movie soundtrack the first beat of Crawfish is out of sync compared to the original mono soundtrack.

[kevanbudd]

I’m curious about the “alternative mix” of Crawfish.

There are two versions of Crawfish that include the movie overdub by Kitty White that I know of, in addition to the movie itself -

The first copy attached to the opening scene (Turtles etc -the orchestra bleeds into it as it starts) which is not too different from the movie version but with Kitty overdubs a bit more audible (well balanced) and then there is a second standalone copy where Kitty is MUCH more forward - appears to be a test for kittys chorus overdub as Kittys overdub totally dominates.

So from the opening sequence acetate (turtles, berries etc) the original Crawfish may have been removed and replaced with the more extreme mix?

We shall see.

Kevan Budd.

To add to the above.
On the various foreign soundtrack options on the BluRay of King Creole, if you switch between them, while she’s dueting with Elvis, you’ll hear she’s high in the mix on some and low in others.
Also note the point where she bleeds into the Crawfish track at the beginning.
On the restored movie soundtrack the first beat of Crawfish is out of sync compared to the original mono soundtrack.

The slightly louder Spanish and French Crawfish versions match the original opening sequence acetate for Kitty's overdub amplitude.
They don't even come close to the stand alone - Kitty dominant mix (Elvis almost audibly disappears when she is singing the overdub part - it's not subtle).

So was the Crawfish part of the opening sequence acetate removed and replaced with the Kitty dominant version - hence why it is listed as a different mix?

Kevan Budd.

[Nolan Truth]

I’m curious about the “alternative mix” of Crawfish.

There are two versions of Crawfish that include the movie overdub by Kitty White that I know of, in addition to the movie itself -

The first copy attached to the opening scene (Turtles etc -the orchestra bleeds into it as it starts) which is not too different from the movie version but with Kitty overdubs a bit more audible (well balanced) and then there is a second standalone copy where Kitty is MUCH more forward - appears to be a test for kittys chorus overdub as Kittys overdub totally dominates.

So from the opening sequence acetate (turtles, berries etc) the original Crawfish may have been removed and replaced with the more extreme mix?

We shall see.

Kevan Budd.

To add to the above.
On the various foreign soundtrack options on the BluRay of King Creole, if you switch between them, while she’s dueting with Elvis, you’ll hear she’s high in the mix on some and low in others.
Also note the point where she bleeds into the Crawfish track at the beginning.
On the restored movie soundtrack the first beat of Crawfish is out of sync compared to the original mono soundtrack.

So was the Crawfish part of the opening sequence acetate removed and replaced with the Kitty dominant version - hence why it is listed as a different mix?

Kevan Budd.

Is the acetate available to hear and check?
If so it makes perfect sense for it to be listed as a different mix.
FTD seem to be opening up to the use of acetates, the Girl Happy sessions being another good example.
Lots of questions with these releases, but still better than any soundboard to me.

[John]

Of course there's a lot of excitement over the King Creole set, but I'm really looking forward to hearing these:
LACQUERS OF UNEDITED MASTERS
12 Wolf Call (2:29)
13 Startin’ Tonight (2:04)
14 I’ve Got To Find My Baby (2:17)
15 Do The Clam (2:43)
16 The Meanest Girl In Town (2:14)
17 Wolf Call (with the Jordanaires) (2:26)
From the Allied Artists motion picture Tickle Me
18 I Feel That I’ve Known You Forever (movie version)

What a shame Fort Lauderdale Chamber Of Commerce isn't included.

Nevertheless, do we know where these were stored and how they were discovered? I wonder what condition they are in?

[Mister Moon]

FTD should contact the folks who restored Hank Williams' "Garden Spot" acetates.

It's, by far, the most remarkable audio restoration work I know :

Restoring Hank Williams - The Garden Spot Programs, 1950
https://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14753&p=193223&hilit=Acetate#p193223

[Nolan Truth]

FTD should contact the folks who restored Hank Williams' "Garden Spot" acetates.

It's, by far, the most remarkable audio restoration work I know :

Restoring Hank Williams - The Garden Spot Programs, 1950
https://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14753&p=193223&hilit=Acetate#p193223

Could FTD afford them?

[Mister Moon]

FTD should contact the folks who restored Hank Williams' "Garden Spot" acetates.

It's, by far, the most remarkable audio restoration work I know :

Restoring Hank Williams - The Garden Spot Programs, 1950
https://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14753&p=193223&hilit=Acetate#p193223

Could FTD afford them?

I have no idea. I can't imagine...

[skabillyrebels]

FTD should contact the folks who restored Hank Williams' "Garden Spot" acetates.

It's, by far, the most remarkable audio restoration work I know :

Restoring Hank Williams - The Garden Spot Programs, 1950
https://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14753&p=193223&hilit=Acetate#p193223

That guy knows a lot about audio restoration.he's talking my kind of language.

Spectrum editor view of Hank Williams audio file.jpeg

quote
Spectrogram editing is a whole other blog post, but let's just say it's sort of like copying and pasting good parts to bad parts with a little bit of Photoshop mixed in. This is super granular level audio editing and it's super time consuming, but the results can be amazing. This is the part where I really feel like I'm rescuing a sound recording from oblivion and making it accessible to a listener. Hank Williams deserves nothing less.

[Tulsa Mclean]

Of course there's a lot of excitement over the King Creole set, but I'm really looking forward to hearing these:
LACQUERS OF UNEDITED MASTERS
12 Wolf Call (2:29)
13 Startin’ Tonight (2:04)
14 I’ve Got To Find My Baby (2:17)
15 Do The Clam (2:43)
16 The Meanest Girl In Town (2:14)
17 Wolf Call (with the Jordanaires) (2:26)
From the Allied Artists motion picture Tickle Me
18 I Feel That I’ve Known You Forever (movie version)

What a shame Fort Lauderdale Chamber Of Commerce isn't included.

Nevertheless, do we know where these were stored and how they were discovered? I wonder what condition they are in?

I remember them for auction several years ago......

[John]

Of course there's a lot of excitement over the King Creole set, but I'm really looking forward to hearing these:
LACQUERS OF UNEDITED MASTERS
12 Wolf Call (2:29)
13 Startin’ Tonight (2:04)
14 I’ve Got To Find My Baby (2:17)
15 Do The Clam (2:43)
16 The Meanest Girl In Town (2:14)
17 Wolf Call (with the Jordanaires) (2:26)
From the Allied Artists motion picture Tickle Me
18 I Feel That I’ve Known You Forever (movie version)

What a shame Fort Lauderdale Chamber Of Commerce isn't included.

Nevertheless, do we know where these were stored and how they were discovered? I wonder what condition they are in?

I remember them for auction several years ago......

and who bought them?