New FTDs....start saving. Girl Happy Sessions, The Making Of King Creole, The Last Tours vol 2

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Re: New FTDs....start saving. Girl Happy Sessions, The Making Of King Creole, The Last Tours vol 2

Postby John » Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:43 am

alberta sheffield wrote:
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Mister Moon wrote:The "Girl Happy" soundtrack was recorded in June 1964, at the height of Beatlemania in the US, after the first visit of the band the previous February. The way I see it, this soundtrack, and a few later ones, includes several winks at the fad, trying to make Elvis look hep among it all, and, of course, failing miserably. In this context, speeding-up was just another cheap trick.


And not just the audio.

The 4-member singing group in the film had them all dressed the same as each other.

Seems they were trying to emulate the look of the Beatles [failed again]:

Group in Girl Happy.JPG

Yes, that too was a nod to the group hysteria going on then.
I am glad that they didn't forced Elvis wearing a Beatles mop top hairstyle.
That would have been the final insult.

Apparently they considered it.
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Postby alberta sheffield » Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:39 pm

Since they used Al manipulated pictures of Elvis already before (the obvious and bad one while shooting Double Trouble in the booklet of the "How great thou Art" sessions set, where was quality control?) I wouldn't be surprised if this one finds his way into the new Girl Happy session booklet.



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Postby alberta sheffield » Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:58 pm

Funny, the last books and Cd-combos from FTD that i considered buying ( Mailing of Viva Las Vegas, Blue Hawaii, Jailhouse Rock) would have cost me 85 Euros (plus 10 euros shipping and packaging) each ....although Viva Las Vegas was originally under 70 Euros even here.
I still decided against it, although compared to the offers for people in the USA 85 euros and even under were comparatively cheaper, because I thought " i will flip through it and it will be on the shelf...and for the shelf even 85 euros is not worth it" .although I could have easily afford it.
Now i checked the new King Creole package at the same reasonable dealer..212 euros (plus shipping).
What?
I could afford that too. But 212 euros ....with package about 225 euros?
That is insane.


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Postby N880EAP » Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:51 pm

alberta sheffield wrote:Now i checked the new King Creole package at the same reasonable dealer..212 euros (plus shipping).
What?
I could afford that too. But 212 euros ....with package about 225 euros?
That is insane.


Most definitely, agree. Same here.
(I like Elvis, a lot. I like King Creole the movie a lot - I think it's one of his best. But, I don't like either of them enough to pay 225 Euros worth of money for a mass produced item (how many are made ? 1,000 ? 2,000 ? more or less ?), with some thrown in gimmicks (record, film cell). It's essentially a mass produced fan-specialty item.)
It's gotten beyond ridiculous. (Greed, in the Elvis World/business ... is insane.)
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Postby John » Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:45 pm

N880EAP wrote:
alberta sheffield wrote:Now i checked the new King Creole package at the same reasonable dealer..212 euros (plus shipping).
What?
I could afford that too. But 212 euros ....with package about 225 euros?
That is insane.


Most definitely, agree. Same here.
(I like Elvis, a lot. I like King Creole the movie a lot - I think it's one of his best. But, I don't like either of them enough to pay 225 Euros worth of money for a mass produced item (how many are made ? 1,000 ? 2,000 ? more or less ?), with some thrown in gimmicks (record, film cell). It's essentially a mass produced fan-specialty item.)
It's gotten beyond ridiculous. (Greed, in the Elvis World/business ... is insane.)

I've ordered it. I'll rip the songs, then sell the bloody thing.



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Postby alberta sheffield » Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:03 pm

John wrote:
N880EAP wrote:
alberta sheffield wrote:Now i checked the new King Creole package at the same reasonable dealer..212 euros (plus shipping).
What?
I could afford that too. But 212 euros ....with package about 225 euros?
That is insane.


Most definitely, agree. Same here.
(I like Elvis, a lot. I like King Creole the movie a lot - I think it's one of his best. But, I don't like either of them enough to pay 225 Euros worth of money for a mass produced item (how many are made ? 1,000 ? 2,000 ? more or less ?), with some thrown in gimmicks (record, film cell). It's essentially a mass produced fan-specialty item.)
It's gotten beyond ridiculous. (Greed, in the Elvis World/business ... is insane.)

I've ordered it. I'll rip the songs, then sell the bloody thing.

You did the same with Blue Hawaii?
Or Viva Las Vegas? Or the 1972 on gour combo?
So you buy it, rip the CD content and than sell it for a profit?


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Re: New FTDs....start saving. Girl Happy Sessions, The Making Of King Creole, The Last Tours vol 2

Postby John » Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:47 pm

alberta sheffield wrote:
John wrote:
N880EAP wrote:
alberta sheffield wrote:Now i checked the new King Creole package at the same reasonable dealer..212 euros (plus shipping).
What?
I could afford that too. But 212 euros ....with package about 225 euros?
That is insane.


Most definitely, agree. Same here.
(I like Elvis, a lot. I like King Creole the movie a lot - I think it's one of his best. But, I don't like either of them enough to pay 225 Euros worth of money for a mass produced item (how many are made ? 1,000 ? 2,000 ? more or less ?), with some thrown in gimmicks (record, film cell). It's essentially a mass produced fan-specialty item.)
It's gotten beyond ridiculous. (Greed, in the Elvis World/business ... is insane.)

I've ordered it. I'll rip the songs, then sell the bloody thing.

You did the same with Blue Hawaii?
Or Viva Las Vegas? Or the 1972 on gour combo?
So you buy it, rip the CD content and than sell it for a profit?

No I didn't do it with them. That's not to say I won't.



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Postby alberta sheffield » Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:35 am

If I had a business sense, which I don't have, I should easily buy every book and CD combo from FTF, wait a year or more and sell it with a profit (which , I am sure, some people do) ...but somehow I just don't do it.


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Postby N880EAP » Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:45 am

Have never sold any of my Elvis items (believe it or not). Have given some things away, but never sold.
(But, just like John said, ... that's not to say that someday I won't. I don't think anything is worth that much though. In general, when it comes to any mass produced item, I'd kind of feel guilty fleecing - e.g., 100% markup - somebody though.)

For me, it's just a hobby/one form of enjoyment .... nothing more. (I could be wrong, but I tend to think that converting one's hobby into a business ..... is probably a good way to ruin it either completely or to varying degrees. At least I think it would be that way for me.)
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Postby John » Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:24 am

N880EAP wrote:Have never sold any of my Elvis items (believe it or not). Have given some things away, but never sold.
(But, just like John said, ... that's not to say that someday I won't. I don't think anything is worth that much though. In general, when it comes to any mass produced item, I'd kind of feel guilty fleecing - e.g., 100% markup - somebody though.)

For me, it's just a hobby/one form of enjoyment .... nothing more. (I could be wrong, but I tend to think that converting one's hobby into a business ..... is probably a good way to ruin it either completely or to varying degrees. At least I think it would be that way for me.)

I'm in the process of moving. I have 5 huge, heavy cardboard boxes full of Elvis CDs along with about half a dozen books. As far as the CDs are concerned, for the last few years I have ripped them on receipt, and never played them. The earlier CDs were played, but rarely. Again, ripped and transferred to an mp3 player, which is the way I listen to them, but again, not often.

The books have all been read once apart from the music reference books. Those have been looked through quite often.

All of the music is backed up on two hard drives and two iPods, also several memory cards. They take up less than half the space of any of the FTD "The Making Of" boxes.

I did sell a lot of bootleg CDs and LPs a couple of years ago, and I have whole bunch more to sell, which I'll do after I move.

At my age, I'm beginning to think this collection is going to cause a problem for my children. It's probably worth £20 - 30 thousand, maybe more, but they'd never sell it in one go. It'll take them ages.

If someone offered me a decent amount today, I reckon I'd take it.


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Postby Mister Moon » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:07 am

N880EAP wrote:For me, it's just a hobby/one form of enjoyment .... nothing more. (I could be wrong, but I tend to think that converting one's hobby into a business ..... is probably a good way to ruin it either completely or to varying degrees. At least I think it would be that way for me.)


100% agree.

It also gives you the priceless freedom to express your exact thoughts anytime you want to.

Some things in life are not for sale, definitely.


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Postby HillbillyCat » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:16 am

N880EAP wrote:Have never sold any of my Elvis items (believe it or not). Have given some things away, but never sold.
(But, just like John said, ... that's not to say that someday I won't. I don't think anything is worth that much though. In general, when it comes to any mass produced item, I'd kind of feel guilty fleecing - e.g., 100% markup - somebody though.)

For me, it's just a hobby/one form of enjoyment .... nothing more. (I could be wrong, but I tend to think that converting one's hobby into a business ..... is probably a good way to ruin it either completely or to varying degrees. At least I think it would be that way for me.)

I feel exactly the same way. It's my hobby, my favorite pastime to escape the everyday troubles, and I swore to myself a long time ago "never to earn money with it in any way".

alberta sheffield wrote:If I had a business sense, which I don't have, I should easily buy every book and CD combo from FTF, wait a year or more and sell it with a profit (which , I am sure, some people do) ...but somehow I just don't do it.

A similar (cynical?) thought occurred to me a few days ago: With the strategy that the FTD label is pursuing (the limitation of already exclusively marketed and high-priced collector's items not intended for re-release), it would actually be appropriate to always buy 2 copies of an FTD product, use one of them for your own pleasure, leave the other one untouched, wait a few years and sell the sealed copy for at least twice the price to some desperate collector, so that you can break even...

Honestly, I don't understand the label's strategy. Why punish everyone who comes late to the party or can't afford to spend a higher three-digit amount per year on books and CDs? Why are the products not being reissued, even though there is obviously a demand for them? Why are there no alternative sales channels, such as streaming and ebooks?

John wrote:I'm in the process of moving. I have 5 huge, heavy cardboard boxes full of Elvis CDs along with about half a dozen books. As far as the CDs are concerned, for the last few years I have ripped them on receipt, and never played them. The earlier CDs were played, but rarely. Again, ripped and transferred to an mp3 player, which is the way I listen to them, but again, not often.

The books have all been read once apart from the music reference books. Those have been looked through quite often.

All of the music is backed up on two hard drives and two iPods, also several memory cards. They take up less than half the space of any of the FTD "The Making Of" boxes.

I did sell a lot of bootleg CDs and LPs a couple of years ago, and I have whole bunch more to sell, which I'll do after I move.

At my age, I'm beginning to think this collection is going to cause a problem for my children. It's probably worth £20 - 30 thousand, maybe more, but they'd never sell it in one go. It'll take them ages.

If someone offered me a decent amount today, I reckon I'd take it.

Though I don't really care what happens after my death, I've already thought about at least giving my heirs a hint that the one or other item might be worth something. But maybe I'll also give them the idea of simply donating the items to the Christmas raffle of the next best Elvis club. :mrgreen:


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Postby Colin B » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:31 am

John wrote:...At my age, I'm beginning to think this collection is going to cause a problem for my children.
It's probably worth £20 - 30 thousand, maybe more, but they'd never sell it in one go. It'll take them ages...


I reckon your estimate of the worth of your collection is optimistic.
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Postby John » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:53 am

Colin B wrote:
John wrote:...At my age, I'm beginning to think this collection is going to cause a problem for my children.
It's probably worth £20 - 30 thousand, maybe more, but they'd never sell it in one go. It'll take them ages...


I reckon your estimate of the worth of your collection is optimistic.

I reckon it isn't. You don't know what I have.


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Postby Colin B » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:32 pm

John wrote:...At my age, I'm beginning to think this collection is going to cause a problem for my children.
It's probably worth £20 - 30 thousand, maybe more, but they'd never sell it in one go. It'll take them ages...
Colin B wrote:I reckon your estimate of the worth of your collection is optimistic.
John wrote:I reckon it isn't. You don't know what I have.


No I don't, just going on the understanding that selling stuff on as second hand usually means only getting a fraction of the price paid originally.

I have no hopes of raking in a small fortune from my collection, even if it cost me one...
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