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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby picturefan » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:16 pm

Walther was pissed of because his Imagine thread was derailed, so he said.

On topic:chuck berry was a creep in my opinion.
Not a nice guy at all.


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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Colin B » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:52 pm

picturefan wrote:Walther was pissed of because his Imagine thread was derailed, so he said.

On topic:chuck berry was a creep in my opinion.
Not a nice guy at all.


Not a very nice person in his private life, but what a superb songwriter & musician !
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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby John » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Sky Arts tonight at 9pm, Chuck Berry, The King Of Rock 'n' Roll, and before that at 7pm, Buddy Holly & The Crickets.



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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Mister Moon » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:53 pm

John wrote:Sky Arts tonight at 9pm, Chuck Berry, The King Of Rock 'n' Roll, and before that at 7pm, Buddy Holly & The Crickets.


Chuck Berry, "King Of Rock 'n Roll" ? They must be kidding.

Haven't they ever heard of Ral Donner ?



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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Jessie-May » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:59 pm

Ive not got Sky Arts so will miss these progs. :( I used to have Sky Arts but no longer have the full Sky package. Hope whoever watches it enjoys it.


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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby John » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:51 pm

Jessie-May wrote:Ive not got Sky Arts so will miss these progs. :( I used to have Sky Arts but no longer have the full Sky package. Hope whoever watches it enjoys it.

I don't have the Sky package either. I have the minimum package with Virgin and it's part of that.



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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Jessie-May » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:08 pm

John wrote:
Jessie-May wrote:Ive not got Sky Arts so will miss these progs. :( I used to have Sky Arts but no longer have the full Sky package. Hope whoever watches it enjoys it.

I don't have the Sky package either. I have the minimum package with Virgin and it's part of that.


Used to hsve the full package and cost too much for my usage so now got a Sky package called Free To Air at £10 per month which is adequate for me. I do miss Sky Arts big-time :cry:


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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:55 am

Colin B wrote: what a superb songwriter & musician !

He certainly was!

The poet of Rock'n'Roll.

In many ways he was far superior than Elvis.
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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Colin B » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:22 am

Colin B wrote: what a superb songwriter & musician !
Mojo Filter wrote:He certainly was!

The poet of Rock'n'Roll.

In many ways he was far superior than Elvis.


As a songwriter & guitarist, yes !
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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby picturefan » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:47 pm

Yes, but that's about it in the ways he was superior to elvis.



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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Jessie-May » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:58 pm

picturefan wrote:Yes, but that's about it in the ways he was superior to elvis.


My personal take on this, is that they were two totally different in their persona stage and in private. Will be interesting to read an example of their differences in your personal opinion, Picturefan



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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Mountain Mist » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:54 pm

Colin B wrote:

Not a very nice person in his private life, but what a superb songwriter & musician !



I am turned off if the people really stand out as not good people.

It is probably limiting, with what I can watch or listen to, (it doesn't affect me) but it is how I am.

There are several actresses, and actors, as well as musicians, for me, who fall into this category.


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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:34 pm

Colin B wrote:
Colin B wrote: what a superb songwriter & musician !
Mojo Filter wrote:He certainly was!

The poet of Rock'n'Roll.

In many ways he was far superior than Elvis.


As a songwriter & guitarist, yes !

Yes, and songwriting is the most important of all. Without a song you're basically buggered. As Phil Everly once said in an interview "songwriting is the foundation of all music". Anyone who can write and create songs is really the most talented one.

Elvis was a great interpretator of songs. He had what a lot of musicians didn't: the looks, charisma, and the ability to sings all kinds.

As far as people's private life goes, let's be fair about this, Elvis wasn't the nicest person either at times. No one's 100% good and no one's 100% bad.

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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby picturefan » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:39 am

No, songwriting is imo not the most important at all.
Somebody has to sing that song good and convincing so that people like it. So imo they are at least equal.
Bob Dylan might be a very good and talented songwriter, but his singing is not even close to elvis ' or Sinatra ' artistic abilities in terms what they can do with a song.
(Bad people even say he can't sing at all, but that is a different matter).

Or do you think if an unknown Bob Dylan would have wrote Suspicious Minds and sang it by himself ...you really think it would have gone to Nr.1?
Or would be even as good as Elvis ' interpretation?
I doubt it.
No one is putting Frank Sinatra down because he didn't wrote the songs himself.
So spare me the nonsense that songwriting is "the most important thing".
An actor also has to have the lines.....or dou you think the scriptwriter would be able to deliver an academy award performance by himself if he acts in his own written script?

This is not the Rolling Stone Magazine here.
If you really think that songwriting is "THE most important thing"you surely are at the wrong forum.
You wouldn't even think to say that Frank Sinatra was less talented as an artist than ,let's say, Mark James, or would you?


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Re: Chuck Berry Dies Aged 90

Postby Mojo Filter » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:57 am

picturefan wrote:No, songwriting is imo not the most important at all.
Somebody has to sing that song good and convincing so that people like it. So imo they are at least equal.
Bob Dylan might be a very good and talented songwriter, but his singing is not even close to elvis ' or Sinatra ' artistic abilities in terms what they can do with a song.
(Bad people even say he can't sing at all, but that is a different matter).

Or do you think if an unknown Bob Dylan would have wrote Suspicious Minds and sang it by himself ...you really think it would have gone to Nr.1?
Or would be even as good as Elvis ' interpretation?
I doubt it.
No one is putting Frank Sinatra down because he didn't wrote the songs himself.
So spare me the nonsense that songwriting is "the most important thing".
An actor also has to have the lines.....or dou you think the scriptwriter would be able to deliver an academy award performance by himself if he acts in his own written script?

This is not the Rolling Stone Magazine here.
If you really think that songwriting is "THE most important thing"you surely are at the wrong forum.
You wouldn't even think to say that Frank Sinatra was less talented as an artist than ,let's say, Mark James, or would you?

Yes, songwriting "is the most important of all"! Where would you be without a song? For a person to convincingly sing a song with conviction the song has to be there in the first place whether the person who wrote it is a good singer or not.

You can't go anywhere without a song, it has to be there, and the person who creates them are the most talented ones.

Cover versions is a different matter altogether. It's someone else's interpretation of what was already there in the first place. You can't do a cover if the song ain't there.

So to recap: Songwriting is the most important of all music. Period.
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